Notes from Megameeting 20th October 2008


BruceAmbacher UM
CandidaFenton HATII, U Glasgow
HelenTibbo UNC
MarieWaltz Center for Research Libraries
RobertDowns CIESIN, Columbia University

Progress made: There was a discussion of the results of the face-to-face meeting in Berlin on 14th October, as summarised on the wiki.

Helen Tibbo >> (All): Hello Bruce, we're the early birds
BruceAmbacher >> (All): Hello.  Did you read the minutes of last Tuesday's face to face?
Helen Tibbo >> (All): No
Marie Waltz >> (All): Hi All, I read the minutes, they have made some big decisions
Marie Waltz >> (All): Yes, I agree, it seems like they went off in a new direction
BruceAmbacher >> (All): Only David and John are doing the weekly work
Helen Tibbo >> (All): Who sent the minutes
Marie Waltz >> (All): Yes, particularly deciding on the qualificaitons for auditors and the test audist next February
Marie Waltz >> (All): Helen, they're posted here on the wiki:
BruceAmbacher >> (All): The goals are good but will all of them participate to achieve them?
Marie Waltz >> (All): Yes, that is a good and important question
Marie Waltz >> (All): Hi Candida
candida fenton >> (All): Hi All
Marie Waltz >> (All): Candida, is there a meeting scheduled for today?
Helen Tibbo >> (All): So from the minutes it looks like they did not discuss the week to week work be have been doing but rather the requirements for auditors once the draft standard is ready for testing.
Marie Waltz >> (All): Yes, and they also decided to have audits in February of next year -- real vigorous ones
candida fenton >> (All): I'm not sure of scheduling for meetings
BruceAmbacher >> (All): I really think the audit document should largely result from discussions in the face to face
Helen Tibbo >> (All): It would be good to know how the CRL audits this year have/are coming out
Marie Waltz >> (All): Thanks Candida
Marie Waltz >> (All): We're not really doign audits, but case studies. They are posted on our website here: as they are completed
BruceAmbacher >> (All): Marie, Explain the differences and the goals
Helen Tibbo >> (All): Marie, do you think these are useful to our efforts here?
Marie Waltz >> (All): I think what we are doing is buidlign background to help understand what makes a long term successful repository. Since one of the things we found when doing the original test audits was that there was nothing to compare to our findings. I think they are useful for understanding big changes in an organization and how technology effects changes. For this group they help.
BruceAmbacher >> (All): Can't we glean anything from the 30+ years of experience of LAC, NARA, ICPSR, etc?
Marie Waltz >> (All): Yes, we can, but (aside from ICPSR who has been incredibly transpaerent and cooperative) these other organization don't want to share their failures. But seriously, the more information the better.
BruceAmbacher >> (All): I felt we revealed some NARA warts in our 30 Years volume - lack of staffing, budget cutes, lack of focus on the long term goals for most of 1982-1992.
BruceAmbacher >> (All): Anyone for adjourning?  We really need details on the face to face before proceeding.
Helen Tibbo >> (All): Where's the rest of the group?
Marie Waltz >> (All): Yes, no one said they weren't going to meet
RobertDowns >> (All): Did anyone on today attend the face-to-face meeting?
BruceAmbacher >> (All): no
Marie Waltz >> (All): no
Helen Tibbo >> (All): no
RobertDowns >> (All): me neither
Helen Tibbo >> (All): They must have worn themselves out!
candida fenton >> (All): I think David is in Paris 
Helen Tibbo >> (All): Imagine prefering Paris to megameeting!
Marie Waltz >> (All): :)
Marie Waltz >> (All): Katia did say last week she couldn't make it this week.
BruceAmbacher >> (All): I have 30 papers to grade.  I will join next week.
Helen Tibbo >> (All): David just sent out an email regarding dates for the face-to-face in Washington. He said he couldn't send ot list so asked me to forward.
Helen Tibbo >> (All): I'm ready to move on to the other 100 things I have on my list today!!  
Marie Waltz >> (All): do you have our addresses?
Helen Tibbo >> (All): I sent it to the list. He said he couldn't because of some email changes on his end.
Marie Waltz >> (All): Did you just send it?
Helen Tibbo >> (All): Yup, just a minute ago.
Marie Waltz >> (All): I haven't gotten it yet, so just checking.
RobertDowns >> (All): I will watch for it, but am on a slow connection today.
Marie Waltz >> (All): Helen, what are the dates?
Marie Waltz >> (All): Also, I just noticed there is a new document on the wiki about auditor competencies, if anyone wants to take a look:
Helen Tibbo >> (All): It's a meeting 'o matic thing We are to select good/bad dates for ourselves.
Helen Tibbo >> (All): Well, have a great week everyone! 
RobertDowns >> (All): Will somone be collecting the notes for the wiki?
Marie Waltz >> (All): I can collect them and send them to Simon. 
RobertDowns >> (All): Thanks, Marie!
Marie Waltz >> (All): You're welcome, should we adjourn?
RobertDowns >> (All): Sure. Enjoy your week!
Marie Waltz >> (All): I hope you both do too.

-- SimonLambert - 21 Oct 2008

Topic revision: r1 - 2008-10-21 - SimonLambert
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