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The discussion was a combination of audio and typed chat. For this reason the chat transcript (given below) gives an incomplete representation and may be hard to follow.

Progress made: Section B2.2 and B2.10 of the working document was discussed at length and revisions were made. This completed B2, although MarkConrad will provide a re-draft of B2 in a couple of weeks. B3 was started and B3.1 and B3.2 were completed. Note that at this time the edits have not yet been made

Actions:

• All to finish adding comments to B3 and B4.
• DavidGiaretta to compare B4 with App5 of TRAC
• MarkConrad to re-draft B2 in 2 weeks time

Next meeting : Finish B3 then move on to B4. Note that we will return to B2 in a few weeks time.

Mark Conrad >> (All): Good morning Bob
RobertDowns >> (All): Good morning Mark and all
candida fenton >> (All): Hello
RobertDowns >> (All): Hi Candida
Marie >> (All): Good morning
Mark Conrad >> (All): Marie, Candida, and John, can you hear the audio.
JohnGarrett >> (All): Good morning, all
candida fenton >> (All): I can hear Ok
JohnGarrett >> (All): I'm just getting mine setup, but I don't think I have audio
Marie >> (All): I can hear fine
Marie >> (All): Yes
RobertDowns >> (All): Sounds reasonable to me
candida fenton >> (All): Sounds fine
KatiaThomaz >> (All): hi folks
Mark Conrad >> (All): Hello Katia!
cclrc >> (All): Hi katia, can you hear when we talk?
BruceAmbacher >> (All): I concur with what David just said - combine 2.1 and 2.2
KatiaThomaz >> (All): hello. i can hear you...
BruceAmbacher >> (All): Katia I am  not hearing any audio.
KatiaThomaz >> (All): ok
KatiaThomaz >> (All): yes
KatiaThomaz >> (All): a long phrase.
KatiaThomaz >> (All): bu i´´ typ now, ok?
KatiaThomaz >> (All): i´ll type now.
KatiaThomaz >> (All): as you know i thinl 2.1 refers only to representation information and 2.2 refers only to PDI
BruceAmbacher >> (All): Mark, are we going to change the B2 title (hopefully) to remove archivable?
cclrc >> (All): Katia - I don't see that B2.2 is about PDI
Mark Conrad >> (All): Katia, I believe B2.1 and B2.2 refer to the entire AIP.
KatiaThomaz >> (All): long-term preservation needs have more with PDI
Mark Conrad >> (All): Katia. I still think B2.1 and B2.2 refer to the entire AIP
KatiaThomaz >> (All): B2.1 and B2.2 relates exactly to B2.7 and B2.9
KatiaThomaz >> (All): B2.7 (representation information) and B2.9 (PDI)
Mark Conrad >> (All): Barbara, can you hear the audio?
BarbaraSierman >> (All): yes Mark!
BruceAmbacher >> (All): no objections
KatiaThomaz >> (All): i am not convinced yet
KatiaThomaz >> (All): one think is information to interpret the information and other thing is information to preserve the 

information
BruceAmbacher >> (All): This where an outline of just the requirements allows us to see the flow from one requirement to the 

next.
cclrc >> (All): Katia - maintaining Representation Information is also vital for preservation - one cannot simply separate 

their functions as only PDI for preservation
KatiaThomaz >> (All): i know but ié different
KatiaThomaz >> (All): it is different
cclrc >> (All): katia - can you live with the revised B2.1 for now and review it as a whoile later?
KatiaThomaz >> (All): yes. go on.
Marie >> (All): No
candida fenton >> (All): No
BruceAmbacher >> (All): NO
KatiaThomaz >> (All): no objections.
RobertDowns >> (All): Two talked simultaneouslly
cclrc >> (All): no objections
RobertDowns >> (All): no objections
JohnGarrett >> (All): No objection
BarbaraSierman >> (All): Mark, at which paragraph are you?
BarbaraSierman >> (All): Are we at 2.10
cclrc >> (All): Yes
BarbaraSierman >> (All): Ok, I agree with Bruce, it is not possible to do it for each AIP, but you need to check
BarbaraSierman >> (All): ok
cclrc >> (All): OK for me
RobertDowns >> (All): ok
candida fenton >> (All): ok
BruceAmbacher >> (All): ok
KatiaThomaz >> (All): ok
cclrc >> (All): Champagne!!
BruceAmbacher >> (All): That's fine as long as we also edit the other text.
cclrc >> (All): Bruce - absolutely agree
BruceAmbacher >> (All): ok
cclrc >> (All): Agree - let's move on
JohnGarrett >> (All): OKJ
KatiaThomaz >> (All): ok
cclrc >> (All): OK
BruceAmbacher >> (All): yes
JohnGarrett >> (All): Yes
BarbaraSierman >> (All): ok
KatiaThomaz >> (All): ok
candida fenton >> (All): ok
Marie >> (All): ok
RobertDowns >> (All): ok
KatiaThomaz >> (All): two voices
RobertDowns >> (All): Two are talking
BruceAmbacher >> (All): I agree.  David do you recall reasons for the separation into B3 or Appendix 5?
Mark Conrad >> (All): I said usable - not useful.
Marie >> (All):  Sorry, I keep getting interupted here, just move on.
BarbaraSierman >> (All): ok for me
cclrc >> (All): OK to leave as is
RobertDowns >> (All): No objection
KatiaThomaz >> (All): no objections
JohnGarrett >> (All): I agree to leave as written
Marie >> (All): yes
BarbaraSierman >> (All): skip it, its ok
Marie >> (All): Yes
BruceAmbacher >> (All): yes
BruceAmbacher >> (All): David - what did you mean by network in your rewrite?
RobertDowns >> (All): From OAIS: Representation Network: The set of Representation Information that fully describes the 

meaning of a Data Object. Representation Information in digital forms needs additional Representation Information so its 

digital forms can be understood over the Long Term.
BarbaraSierman >> (All): well , it might not be correct OAIS, but REp Info Netwrok is more clear!
BruceAmbacher >> (All): Does anyone object to David's rewrite if network is deleted?
KatiaThomaz >> (All): ok with me.
candida fenton >> (All): ok
Marie >> (All): I think the change is fine.
KatiaThomaz >> (All): inadequacy?
KatiaThomaz >> (All): instead of obsolescence...
RobertDowns >> (All): How about the following combination of the two sentences: The repository must show that it has some 

active mechanism to warn of impending changes to the knowledge base of the designated community
BruceAmbacher >> (All): The repository must show that it has some active mechanism to ensure that the preserved information 

remains understandable and usable by the designated community(ies)
KatiaThomaz >> (All): i agree with Bruce.
BarbaraSierman >> (All): ok
Marie >> (All): OK
RobertDowns >> (All): no objections
JohnGarrett >> (All): I agree with Bruce's text
candida fenton >> (All): I'm afraid I have to go now. Bye.
KatiaThomaz >> (All): sorry, i must leave you now. have a good week.
BarbaraSierman >> (All): Sorry I must leave now, see you next week
BruceAmbacher >> (All): agree to striking including formats
cclrc >> (All): OK
RobertDowns >> (All): ok
Marie >> (All): Bye
JohnGarrett >> (All): Bye
cclrc >> (All): ACTION DG to review B3 wrt App5 of TRAC
Mark Conrad >> (All): See you all next week.
RobertDowns >> (All): Bye
cclrc >> (All): Next week finish B3 then move on to B4. We will return to B2 later
Simon Lambert >> (All): OK, will do
Simon Lambert >> (All): bye
cclrc >> (All): Bye all

-- DavidGiaretta - 02 Jun 2008